2014-02-08 Guided meditation, Metta for the difficult person 20:16
Pascal Auclair	Download Listen
True North Insight :  A Soft and Radical Transformation of the Heart

2014-02-08 Metta: The Heart’s Release 1:19:06
Marcia Rose	Download Listen
Mountain Hermitage :  The Heart’s Release with Marcia Rose and Winnie Nazarko

2014-02-08 Morning instructions on metta and guided meditation 63:04
Pascal Auclair	Download Listen
True North Insight :  A Soft and Radical Transformation of the Heart

2014-02-07 Metta has Many Forms 58:31
Pascal Auclair	Download Listen
True North Insight :  A Soft and Radical Transformation of the Heart

2014-02-07 First morning instructions on metta and guided meditation 54:11
Pascal Auclair	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  A Soft and Radical Transformation of the Heart

2014-02-05 Part 1: Universal Faces of Love 1:24:25
Tara Brach	Listen to tracks Show 2 Tracks
Lovingkindness, or metta, is the first of the four divine abodes in buddhist teachings. This talk explores the habitual patterns of fears and wants that obscure this innate quality of heart and key ways that we awaken ourselves to its luminous presence.
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  IMCW Wednesday Evening Talks
Meditation: Listening to and Feeling the Moment 21:47 Download Listen Part 1: Universal Faces of Love 62:37 Download Listen

2014-02-02 A Brief Closing Talk with Metta and Some Chanting 16:35
Alan Lewis	Download Listen
Gaia House :  Uncertainty

2014-01-26 Metta Guided Meditation 31:40
Debra Chamberlin-Taylor	Download Listen
With Jennifer Berezan on guitar
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Reclaiming the Wisdom of the Mother of all Buddhas: A Women's Retreat

2014-01-19 Metta Practice in Our Everyday Lives - "Let Your Life and Practice Be One" 53:06
Donald Rothberg	Download Listen
We explore (1) our individual metta practice - formal and informal 0 in our daily lives, (2) metta practice in the context of our many types of relationships, and (3) metta practice as service and action in our wider world.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  January Metta Retreat

2014-01-18 The Eleven Benefits of Metta 54:32
Heather Sundberg	Download Listen
The Buddha taught that there are 8 ways to cultivate metta, which manifest into 11 benefits. The talk includes numerous stories from around the world, including the story of how the Buddha came to teach lovingkindness.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  January Metta Retreat

2014-01-17 Metta-– The Heart's Release. 67:03
Marcia Rose	Download Listen
There is a great release of the contractions of the heart... the past pains, hurts and anguish that we've taken in and taken on as "mine", "me", as"I am". It it's not so easy to relinquish these habituated patterns of our-self. Our commitment to our practice and willingness to take the journey is what affords the transformation. Not so easy at times, but well worth it.
Insight Meditation Society - Forest Refuge :  January 2014 at IMS - Forest Refuge

2014-01-16 Metta and Forgiveness 57:19
Donald Rothberg	Download Listen
Forgiveness practice is one of the family of "heart practices" and particularly valuable in relationship to difficult experiences, both interpersonal (or social) and in relationship to oneself. We look at forgiveness in the context of metta practice, exploring the dynamics of forgiveness through stories and core guidelines of forgiveness practice.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  January Metta Retreat

2014-01-15 The Difficulties Are the Gifts: Metta, Compassion and Their Hindrances 56:11
Heather Sundberg	Download Listen
How to bring your metta practice alive in the midst of the inevitable cycles of difficulty and purification. Stories, poems, practices and tools to help us "keep going".
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  January Metta Retreat

2014-01-13 Metta - Introduction and Instructions 61:47
Christina Feldman	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Mindfulness, Insight, Liberation: The Foundations of Mindfulness-Based Modalities and Research

2014-01-01 Metta, closing - Guided Meditation 19:04
Amma Thanasanti	Download Listen
Shakti Vihara :  New Year's Retreat 2014 - Radical Aliveness Through Awareness

2013-12-31 Guided Heart Metta Meditation with Poetry 41:51
Hugh Byrne	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW New Year's Retreat: Awakening the Heart of Compassion

2013-12-30 Guided Metta Meditation 36:08
Pat Coffey	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW New Year's Retreat: Awakening the Heart of Compassion

2013-12-29 Guided Heart Meditation: Metta 25:51
Ruth King	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW New Year's Retreat: Awakening the Heart of Compassion

2013-12-28 Ocean of Metta - Guided Meditation 23:47
Ayya Anandabodhi	Download Listen
Aloka Vihara Forest Monastery (Angela Center) :  New Year Retreat

2013-12-28 Meditation - Heart Metta with Instruction 43:06
Hugh Byrne	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW New Year's Retreat: Awakening the Heart of Compassion

2013-12-13 Guided Metta Meditation 0:00
Pascal Auclair	(Recording not available)
Evening Guided Meditation
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Compassionate Hearts, Joyful Minds LGBTIQ & SGL Retreat

2013-12-11 Metta Guided Meditation 25:40
Arinna Weisman	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Compassionate Hearts, Joyful Minds LGBTIQ & SGL Retreat

2013-12-08 Instructions - Forgiveness and Metta for the Difficult Person 42:52
Yanai Postelnik	Download Listen
Gaia House :  Lovingkindness - A Metta Meditation Retreat

2013-11-22 Questions & Answers: Grounded in the Body; Walking Meditation; Metta, Heedfulness, Stream Entry 64:18
Ajahn Sucitto	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Forest Refuge :  November 9 to December 8 2013 at IMS - Forest Refuge

2013-11-20 Evening Chanting 36:46
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
A short reflection on sharing of merit followed by chanting of Karaniya Metta Sutta in Pali and English. Meditation period ends with chanting verses of sharing and aspiration
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-11-18 The Brahmaviharas - Metta, Mudita, Karuna And Upekha 54:34
Dhammaruwan	Download Listen
Guided Meditation Instructions on Metta and Compassion. The heart of the path is being a good person. Expounding Metta (friendliness), Mudita (appreciative joy), Karuna (compassion) and Upekha (equanimity).
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-11-11 Evening Chanting 13:31
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
Chanting of Karaniya Metta Sutta in Pali and English
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-11-07 Evening Metta Chanting 11:01
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
Karaniya Metta Sutta chanting in Pali and English. Followed by a silent meditation and a short blessing chant to end.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-11-05 Evening Metta Chanting 12:16
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
A short reflection on dedication of merit, followed by chanting of the Karaniya Metta Sutta in Pali
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-11-02 Evening Chanting 35:47
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
Chanting of: Invitation to the Devas; Karaniya Metta Sutta - followed by sitting meditation. Period ends with short chant in Pali - impermanence and death reflection.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-10-31 Evening Metta Chanting - 3 month course 35:52
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
A short reflection on sharing merit followed by group chanting of Karaniya Metta Sutta in Pali. Followed by chanting of Metta Sutta in English.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-10-28 Metta Instructions 59:04
Spring Washam	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-10-26 Metta Chant and Satipatthana 41:09
Dhammaruwan	Download Listen
Metta and Satipatthana Sutta chanting
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-10-25 Evening Metta Chanting 37:04
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
A short introduction to quality of friendliness, followed by call and response chanting of the Kalaniya Metta Sutta in Pali, followed by chanting in English
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-10-25 The Brahmaviharas - Metta (Friendliness) 56:16
Dhammaruwan	Download Listen
Introducing the Brahmaviharas. Fundamental nature of everyone is to be good. Misconceptions of Metta (Friendliness). Importance of friendliness in meditation practice. How to and how not to practice metta or friendliness. Guided meditation instructions.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 2

2013-10-23 Meditation: Guided Metta Practice 26:08
Pat Coffey	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW Fall Retreat: Intimacy with Life

2013-10-14 Metta Meditation #2 43:31
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Monastero di Camaldoli :  Awareness with Wisdom

2013-10-13 Metta Meditation #1 44:29
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Monastero di Camaldoli :  Awareness with Wisdom

2013-10-05 Workshop: Lovingkindness 8:21:26
Sharon Salzberg	Listen to tracks Show 8 Tracks
Metta
Common Ground Meditation Center
Lovingkindness - Day 1 - Part 1 1:13:15 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 1 - Part 2 25:29 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 1 - Part 3 1:23:04 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 1 - Part 4 48:59 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 2 - Part 1 47:39 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 2 - Part 2 1:26:43 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 2 - Part 3 1:24:01 Download Listen Lovingkindness - Day 2 - Part 4 52:14 Download Listen

2013-10-05 The Parami of Metta 54:54
Narayan Helen Liebenson	Download Listen
True North Insight :  Your Life is Your Practice

2013-10-02 Metta (Lovingkindness): Allowing the Veils to Fall Away 53:18
Sharda Rogell	Download Listen
A talk on how the Buddha's emphasis on loving kindness begins to dissolve the ego's confusion and awakens the heart to its natural expression of love.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Flavors of Kindness: A Retreat on Love, Joy, Compassion and Equanimity

2013-09-30 Metta Meditation #2 44:19
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Cloud Mountain Retreat Center :  Through Dhamma Eyes, Awareness with Wisdom

2013-09-29 Metta Meditation #1 41:10
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Cloud Mountain Retreat Center :  Through Dhamma Eyes, Awareness with Wisdom

2013-09-29 The Wisdom of Metta 57:24
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Cloud Mountain Retreat Center :  Through Dhamma Eyes, Awareness with Wisdom

2013-09-27 Guided Metta Practice - Self, Friend and Benefactor 47:07
Bonnie Duran	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 1

2013-09-23 Metta First Expression In The World 58:38
Winnie Nazarko	Download Listen
The "back-story" to Buddha's teaching metta (goodwill)to a community of monks. A chanting (in English) of the Buddha's instructions. Discussion of objections to metta.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 1

2013-09-23 Metta Practice: Working with difficulty 58:39
Andrea Fella	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 1

2013-09-13 Guided Metta Meditation 61:52
Winnie Nazarko	Download Listen
Some overview comments about Metta (loving kindness), followed by real time meditation instruction for this practice. Q&A afterwards
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Three Month - Part 1

2013-09-06 Introduction To The Brahma Viharas 55:37
Deborah Ratner Helzer	Download Listen
The back story to the metta sutta and an overview of the four sublime abidings
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Cultivating a Wise Heart: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-08-27 Guided Metta Meditation 44:37
John Peacock	Download Listen
Gaia House :  The Heart of Practice

2013-08-16 Metta Practice Day 4 38:09
Andrea Fella	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Concentration Retreat

2013-08-15 Radiating Metta Practice Day 3 50:37
Phillip Moffitt	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Concentration Retreat

2013-08-14 Metta Practice in the Context of a Concentration Retreat 48:41
Donald Rothberg	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Concentration Retreat

2013-08-07 Metta Instructions - Day 4 1:10:12
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Difficult Person
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Awareness and Dhamma Wisdom: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-08-06 Guided Metta Instruction - Day 3 58:40
Mark Nunberg	Download Listen
Introducing the neutral person
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Awareness and Dhamma Wisdom: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-08-05 Guided Metta and Instructions 51:31
Deborah Ratner Helzer	Download Listen
Working with near and far enemies.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Awareness and Dhamma Wisdom: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-08-04 Metta Instructions and Guided Meditation 63:37
Mark Nunberg	Download Listen
Preliminary Metta instructions including general overview and introduction to "easy person"
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Awareness and Dhamma Wisdom: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-08-03 Body & Metta - Guided Meditation 44:05
Amma Thanasanti	Download Listen
Shakti Vihara :  Love, Sexuality and Awakening Retreat

2013-08-02 Guided Metta Meditation 46:26
Vinny Ferraro	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center (Angela Center) :  Against the Stream Retreat

2013-07-20 Metta and Compassion 60:34
Steven Smith	Download Listen
Vallecitos Mountain Retreat Center :  Affectionate Awareness as a Path to Liberation

2013-07-17 Loving The Enemy 46:45
Anushka Fernandopulle	Download Listen
How metta practice can help us deal with difficult situations and difficult people. Being an activist with love and courage.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Heart of Love Metta Retreat

2013-07-14 Obstacles to Unconditional Love (Metta) 51:14
Mark Coleman	Download Listen
What stops us from resting in the heart of love. What hindrances arise in meditation when cultivating metta? This talk explores the power of loving kindness, its obstacles and how to work with them top liberate the heart.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Heart of Love Metta Retreat

2013-07-13 Voyage on the Ocean of Metta 47:40
Anushka Fernandopulle	Download Listen
Why we practice metta: connecting to the Eightfold Path, opening insight.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Heart of Love Metta Retreat

2013-06-30 Metta 1:12:07
Marcia Rose	Download Listen
Mountain Hermitage :  Sayadaw Vivekananda and Marcia Rose

2013-06-29 18 Metta, perdono, pratica per svilupp. determinaz. , Metta 2 57:03
Bhante Bodhidhamma	Download Listen
Associazione Pian dei Ciliegi :  Bhante Bodhidhamma ritiro vipassana giugno 2013

2013-06-28 17 canto di Metta 6:50
Bhante Bodhidhamma	Download Listen
Associazione Pian dei Ciliegi :  Bhante Bodhidhamma ritiro vipassana giugno 2013

2013-06-23 09 spiegazione Metta 38:05
Bhante Bodhidhamma	Download Listen
Associazione Pian dei Ciliegi :  Bhante Bodhidhamma ritiro vipassana giugno 2013

2013-06-21 03 Metta 17:27
Bhante Bodhidhamma	Download Listen
Associazione Pian dei Ciliegi :  Bhante Bodhidhamma ritiro vipassana giugno 2013

2013-06-18 Reflections on Practicing Metta in the World 1:11:11
Spring Washam	Download Listen
Spring Washam and Donald Rothberg offer reflections on bringing metta practice into the world and answer questions about this from yogis.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Metta Retreat, June 2013

2013-06-18 Radiating Metta To A Difficult Person 66:51
Bhante Buddharakkhita	Download Listen
Dealing with a difficult person when sending metta.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  People of Color Retreat

2013-06-17 Metta - The Heart of Love 54:49
Spring Washam	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Metta Retreat, June 2013

2013-06-16 The Challenges and the Fruits of Metta Practice 59:01
Donald Rothberg	Download Listen
We explore 1) the spirit of metta practice; 2) some of the challenges of the practice, particularly framed in the terms of the five "hindrances"; 3) some of the fruits of the practice, as it matures.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Metta Retreat, June 2013

2013-06-16 Afternoon Instructions #2 55:26
Donald Rothberg	Download Listen
General Instructions on metta and introduction of the "benefactor" category, with Q & A.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Metta Retreat, June 2013

2013-06-16 Cultivation Of Ground Of Metta 65:16
Gina Sharpe	Download Listen
Introduction to Brahma Viharas and beginning Metta practice, Q&A
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  People of Color Retreat

2013-06-08 Metta/Lovingkindness Discussion and Guided Practice 22:04
Jesse Maceo Vega-Frey	Download Listen
Introduction to loving kindness practice and guided instructions.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Liberation of Heart and Mind: Lovingkindness and Insight Weekend

2013-05-28 Guided Metta Meditation - Receiving From Benefactors 41:17
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Liberation of Heart and Mind: Insight Meditation and Lovingkindness Retreat

2013-05-25 A Heart as Wide as the World - Metta Meditation 69:21
Mark Coleman	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center

2013-05-25 A Heart as Wide as the World - The Practice of Metta and its Relationship to Mindfulness 33:54
Mark Coleman	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center

2013-05-16 Lovingkindness 55:00
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
An overview of the qualities of Loving kindness emphasizing the natural luminosity of the heart. Begins with chanting of the first part of the Karaniya Metta Sutta.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  The Flavors of Kindness: A Retreat on the Divine Abodes

2013-05-16 Guided Meditation on Loving Kindness (Metta) 39:48
Lila Kate Wheeler	Download Listen
Kindness and friendliness for oneself, a dear person, beings nearby and all beings
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  The Flavors of Kindness: A Retreat on the Divine Abodes

2013-05-16 Introduction to Loving Kindness (Metta) Meditation 18:04
Lila Kate Wheeler	Download Listen
A concise discussion on loving kindness or Metta Bhavana
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  The Flavors of Kindness: A Retreat on the Divine Abodes

2013-05-10 Boundless Metta in Difficult Times - A Guided Loving Kindness Meditation 41:28
Ayya Medhanandi	Download Listen
We can develop the boundless quality of metta in difficult conditions.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Waking Up to the Peace in Our Hearts: Monastic Retreat

2013-05-01 Guided Meditation - Flower Metta 25:27
Pat Coffey	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW Spring Retreat: Intimacy With Life

2013-04-29 Guided Metta/Loving Kindness Meditation with short introduction 57:14
Kamala Masters	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Forest Refuge :  April 2013 at IMS - Forest Refuge

2013-04-29 Guided Metta Meditation and Question/Response 52:21
James Baraz	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Community of Washington DC :  2013 IMCW Spring Retreat: Intimacy With Life

2013-04-20 Marcia Rose: Metta, The Heart’s Release 67:03
Marcia Rose	Download Listen
Mountain Hermitage :  April 2013 Month Long Hermitage

2013-04-18 The Metta Of Awareness and The Awareness of Metta 63:15
Phillip Moffitt	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  The Nature of Awareness: Insight Meditation Retreat for Experienced Students

2013-04-13 Invitation into Lovingkindness 38:08
Larry Yang	Download Listen
Metta practice
Garrison Institute :  Transforming Ourselves, Transforming the World: A Mindfulness Meditation weekend for LGBTIQ Communities

2013-04-10 May Practice and One's Life Be one--Reflections on Four weeks of Retreat 52:28
Donald Rothberg	Download Listen
Reflections after just having returned from retreat, on (1) the nature and beauty of retreat, (2) the range of practices done---concentration, insight, metta, and open awareness; and (3) the deep intention to connect retreat and daily life.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  Monday and Wednesday Talks

2013-03-18 Afternoon Session - Formal cultivation of Metta as a practice 2:01:58
Christina Feldman	Download Listen
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  The Brahma Viharas: Study and Insight Meditation Retreat for Experienced Students

2013-03-18 The Path of Metta 50:11
Norman Feldman	Download Listen
An exploration of what metta means, why we begin with self, and the relationship between the three aspects of metta: self, others and all beings. Includes real life examples of the power of metta to transform self and others.
Gaia House :  Insight Meditation and Qi Gong Retreat

2013-03-17 An Afternoon with Sylvia Boorstein: The Metta Sutta as the Complete Guide to Practice 2:59:45
Sylvia Boorstein	Download Listen
We’ll use the Metta Sutta, The Buddha’s Sermon in Impartial Kindness, as the template overview for practicing liberation from suffering. We’ll have time to study the sermon, practice both mindfulness and lovingkindness meditation, and have discussions and Q&A about obstacles to practice. This program is suitable for beginners.
New York Insight Meditation Center :  An Afternoon with Sylvia Boorstein: The Metta Sutta as the Complete Guide to Practice

2013-02-27 Metta and its myriad facets, functions and effects 58:04
Heather Martin	Download Listen
- A brilliant technique to focus us - So many ways to look into and nourish our hearts, without which we just can't calm down. - the mother of the collection of all 4 Brahma Viharas and their dance together - The most profound inner abiding
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  February Insight Meditation - 1 Month Retreat

2013-02-23 Guided Metta Meditation 40:37
Thanissara	Download Listen
Kindness for self, loved one, neutral person, adversary and all beings. Buddha's words on loving kindness.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  An Integrated Awakening: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-02-23 Divine Abiding Of Metta 37:23
Kittisaro	Download Listen
Cultivating a mind that can meet adversity with loving kindness. Guided Metta meditation.
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  An Integrated Awakening: Insight Meditation Retreat

2013-02-18 Cultivating Wholesome States - Part 2 60:29
James Baraz	Download Listen
Suffering itself can lead to genuine well-being and happiness when we know how to transform it. Other wholesome states: how to have metta for self and letting go into simply being are explored.
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  February Insight Meditation - 1 Month Retreat

2013-02-16 Afternoon Brahma Vihara -Metta for All Beings 30:50
Heather Martin	Download Listen
Spirit Rock Meditation Center :  February Insight Meditation - 1 Month Retreat

2013-02-15 Greg Scharf: Metta Instructions Day 5 14:07
Greg Scharf	Download Listen
Mountain Hermitage :  February 2013 Wise Attention and Opening the Heart with Greg Scharf

2013-02-14 Tasking Love Into The World 45:59
Mark Coleman	Download Listen
This talk explores how do we bring Metta (love) into the world and all the places that Metta is needed in our lives
Insight Meditation Society - Retreat Center :  Metta: Lovingkindness Retreat

2013-02-13 Marcia Rose: Metta: The Heart’s Release 68:03
Marcia Rose	Download Listen
Mountain Hermitage :  February 2013 Wise Attention and Opening the Heart with Greg Scharf